Though everlasting be not excluded, yet a spiritual life is principally intended; we shall so live with Christ, as no more to return to dead works. All Scriptures should be read and understood in the context of the surrounding verses. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. We know what is meant by disgust. This is both a symbolic and a real resurrection from the dead. ‘Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him.’. John Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible, Robertson's Word Pictures in the New Testament, Expository Notes with Practical Observations on the New Testament, Greek Testament Critical Exegetical Commentary, Heinrich Meyer's Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament, Johann Albrecht Bengel's Gnomon of the New Testament, Matthew Poole's English Annotations on the Holy Bible, Alexander MacLaren's Expositions of Holy Scripture, Justin Edwards' Family Bible New Testament, William Godbey's Commentary on the New Testament, Haldane's Exposition on the Epistle to the Romans and Hebrews, Schaff's Popular Commentary on the New Testament, Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible - Unabridged, Hodge's Commentary on Romans, Ephesians and First Corintians. 2 Timothy 2:11. It is nothing but the Cross of Christ without us and within us, which changes any one of us from being (as I may say) a devil, into an angel. Love is ever thinking of the object beloved; delights in acting with a view to it; to be likened to it; to cling to it; to become more and more one with it. Romans 6:8 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] Romans 6:8, NIV: "Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him." I. Romans 6:8-18 King James Version (KJV). But from where can we obtain the power to have this victory over sin? We believe, i.e., we have a confidence, founded on the promise and revealed purpose of God. These may be said to be dead and crucified with Christ, having by the assistance of his Spirit, in some measure crucified the flesh with its inordinate affections and lusts; and if they here live like him, so they shall also live with him: Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. At the same time it is not to be explained as if an ἀεί or the like stood beside συζήσομεν (without falling away), as is done by Tholuck; compare Theophylact. To be alive is not merely to bear the thought of religion, to assent to the truth of religion, to wish to be religious, but to be drawn towards it, to love it, to delight in it, to obey it. But who are the persons that may be said to be dead with Christ? 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. The apostle here recalls the sentiment of Romans 6:5, in order to continue that train of thought (see the note at Romans 6:5). 8. Here physical resurrection is in view, as is clear from the future tense (cf. But hereafter it will be otherwise. Believers, [Note: E.g, Mounce, p152; and Cranfield, 1:312-13.]. Comp 1 Corinthians 15:25. we believe that we shall also live with him; not only a life of justification by faith in his righteousness; and a life of sanctification from him, and to his glory; the continuance of which, and a perseverance in it, are firmly believed; but a life of glory and happiness with him hereafter, both in the new Jerusalem, in the new heavens, and new earth, in the glorious state of the church on earth, and in heaven to all eternity; where they shall be personally and visibly with him, in soul and body, and shall live in the most intimate and uninterrupted communion with him, enjoying the highest pleasure, and the most consummate happiness; and are therefore under the greatest obligation, whilst here on earth, to live, not in sin, but to righteousness, and to his praise and glory; with whom they are now dead to sin, and with whom they not only hope, but believe they shall live throughout the endless ages of eternity. 8 Now “Now” advances the argument. A supposition, or presupposed condition; the thing supposed, is the baptized persons being dead with Christ; If we be dead with him, that is, by the exercise of daily mortification: If we have fellowship and communion with him in his death, that as he died for sin, we daily die unto sin: Then followeth, 2. Having died unto, or on account of, sin once, he now ever lives to, and with God. We believe, etc. Dead we are with Christ by baptism, by His power and grace, and dead we must also be in the habits of our new life, in order that such Divine life may be continued in Him; and all this from the most intimate reference to Him. This communion of life is the ἐν χριστῷ and χριστὸν ἐν ἡμῖν εἶναι. Commentary on Romans 6:21-23 (Read Romans 6:21-23) The pleasure and profit of sin do not deserve to be called fruit. That the life here mentioned is the life after the resurrection, as in verse 5th, appears from the phraseology. App-104). Such as make conscience of it, daily endeavor to peform it, and obtain the success of their endeavours in such a degree, that the reign of sin is broken, though sin itself be not toally destroyed. Once in a while people ask why I do not give altar calls, where I invite people to come forward to indicate that they want to receive Christ as Savior and Lord. And as we naturally become like that which we contemplate, it is to him an inexpressible satisfaction to reflect that by his very baptism and new birth he is himself there, dead with Christ and buried, in order that he might find in Him a better life; that the very strength and life of his baptism consists in his being thus made conformable to Christ's death. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, . You are dead with Christ and alive unto God. Our having died with Him means that we need no longer live in the bondage of sin. Other Forerunner Commentary entries containing Romans 6:8: Matthew 8:4 John 3:5 Galatians 4:7 Hebrews 9:27 Romans 6:7 : Romans 6:9 >> The Berean: Daily Verse and Comment Sign up for the Berean: Daily Verse and Comment, and have Biblical truth delivered to your inbox. It is an article of our faith. How enlightening is the fact that, after all Paul had written of faith in preceding chapters, when it comes down to speaking of the Christian's justification and his hope of living eternally with Christ above, it is not faith which is mentioned, but dying with Christ. I am not lying. In consequence, by positively reckoning on the fact that we have died with Him, we can now be free from sin’s grip and power. We “died” with Christ at one point in the past (aorist indicative). And thus, having been freed from the condemnation of sin by our being ‘accounted as righteous’, sin has lost its hold on us. Both live unto God. We shall live, συζήσομεν, the future, referring not to what is to happen hereafter, but to what is the certain consequence of our union with Christ. Vow if we died with Christ. Freedom from Sin; Life in God. No, the Christian life is but a shadow of heaven. The spiritual life of His people is as undying as His own: its vitality is unquenchable; death cannot hurt it, or end it, or have dominion over it. For who can cherish the conviction that he stands in that holy communion of resurrection-life with Christ, if he should be compelled to doubt whether his Lord, though indeed risen, might not again fall a victim to death? That is, we are sure that the consequences of his death are not merely negative, i.e., not simply deliverance from evil, moral and physical, but also a participation in his life. John Piper Feb 8, 1981 2.5K Shares Sermon. The connection.—This lies in the union between Christ and His people. Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more, reckon ye yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, not in his own person, but in that of Christ, his Representative, Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. I saw a lovely field with not a single blemish on the virgin snow. So with His people. Ибо ежели возвращаемся мы к своим мерзостям, то отрицаемся Христа, участвовать в Котором не можем кроме как через обновление жизни, подобно тому, как и Сам Он ведет нетленную жизнь. II. As His death dissolved His connection with sin, so, if they be dead with Him, their death has dissolved their connection with it. The believer understands that the final object which God has in view in crucifying his old man (Romans 6:6) is to realize in him the life of the Risen One (Romans 6:8-9), and he enters actively into the divine thought. Lesson 44: Understanding the Unbelieving Mind (Romans 8:6-8) Related Media. Sinners are but ploughing iniquity, sowing vanity, and reaping the same. The inference or conclusion, We shall also live with him; that is, We that have had fellowship with him in his death, shall have communion with him in his resurrection: We shall live with him a life of grace and glory, of regeneration and glorification, the one to newness of life, the other to everlasting life. The life of both is undying. Therefore count yourself so and aspire after freedom from sin and life unto God. As he was raised up from death, so we shall be raised from the death of sin. It brings home to us that as Christians we live in two realms. Christ ‘died unto sin’; we ‘died,’ and are ‘to reckon ourselves dead unto sin.’ ‘Died unto sin’ is not equivalent to ‘died for sin.’ These are not convertible terms, and we cannot ‘die for sin’ as Christ did. Romans 6:8. : see note on Romans 6:5: there is no conscious separation of ethical and transcendent life with Christ—to Paul it is one life. Sin could no more condemn Him and bring Him to death, the penalty of the law, when by death He had exhausted the law’s penalty. 2. His original commentary quickly became a standard reference on Paul’s longest and most important… However some writers have taken this as referring to our life lived out here and now. In Christ’s case it cannot point to His separation from sin as a defiling and inward thing in Him when He died; for He knew no sin. So, too, when we are said to reign with him, to be glorified together, both these ideas are included; see Romans 8:17, and many similar passages. God’s *blessings for the *Jews 9:1-5. v1 I speak the truth in *Christ. The *Holy Spirit … A holy man is by nature subject to sin equally with others; but he is holy because he subdues, tramples on, chains up, imprisons, puts out of the way this law of sin, and is ruled by religious and spiritual motives. Romans 12:6-8 NIV We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. This is both a symbolic and a real resurrection from the dead. Romans 8:6 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] Romans 8:6, NIV: "The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace." Our animal powers cannot exist in all atmospheres; certain airs are poisonous, others life-giving. His statement, or expression of belief, is demonstration to a Christian. Now if we be dead ('if we died') with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him - `the future (to use the words of Hodge) referring not to what is to happen hereafter, but to what is the certain consequence of our union with Christ.' Participation of the believer's sanctified life with the life of Christ rather than participation in future glory, which is not the point emphasized. Death may touch the body, but in doing so only helps to perfect the life of the soul, and must resign its dominion over the body (cf. "If" could be translated "Since" (first class condition in Greek that in this case represents a condition genuinely true to reality). This does not imply that faith is not required, but shows that faith consummated by baptism into the death of Christ is the determinator. Ибо ежели должны они являть собою образ Христов в умерщвлении плоти и духе жизни (Через оживотворение), а первое продолжается бесконечно, то и второе с необходимостью должно длиться вечно. As, however, this life is a permanent and eternal life, as it pertains to the body as well as to the soul, a participation of his life now involves a participation of it, with all its glorious consequences, for ever. J. Williams, The Epistles and Gospels, vol. The life here spoken of is that "eternal life" which believers are said to possess even in this world; see John 3:36, John 5:24; and which is manifested here by devotion to God, and hereafter in the purity and blessedness of heaven. The expression refers to the end put to Christ’s connection with sin and our connection with it by death. 8.] Rev., correctly, we died. Only men seeking first the Kingdom of God and His goodness will be interested in these writings. 12:6-8). Romans 6:6-7, to its positive side, which is likewise exhibited as based on the consciousness of faith (πιστεύομεν). We shall have no earthly wishes, no tendencies to disobedience or irreligion, no love of the world or the flesh, to draw us off from supreme devotion to God. It seems best to accept a primary reference to sanctification, to ethical fellowship with Christ. Paul returns to his main line of reasoning. And we can live in newness of life (Romans 6:4; Romans 6:11). There are several excellent commentaries on Romans in recent years. We are in fact raised up here, and, as it were, made alive to him. Death has no more any dominion over him. 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die—but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. It tends very much to the clearing of a truth, to observe how the Scripture is fulfilled in it. II. To live here is but to lie a dying. They die to its condemning power and its legal dominion, as thoroughly as if sin had slain them personally and the law had literally exacted its penalty from them. It becomes an article of our belief that we are to live with Christ. So I want you to run around that cir… Romans 6:8 Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that … Dead with Christ; in the sense above explained-one with him in sympathy, desire, and effort as to the object of his death, the deliverance of his people from sin. Romans 8 is the pinnacle chapter in Paul’s most formidable epistle. We are to recognise that we are partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light (Colossians 1:12). жить будем с Ним В широком смысле Павел имеет в виду, не только то, что верующие будут жить в присутствии Христа в вечности, но также и то, что все умершие со Христом (а это верно для всех верующих) будут здесь вести жизнь, которая полностью согласуется с Его святостью. The Apostle speaks of it as a future life, which it is unnatural to interpret as signifying the believer’s spiritual life here, or as importing the continuation of it to the end of his course. We shall have our Saviour's holiness fulfilled in us, and be able to love God without drawback or infirmity. συζήσομεν αὐτῷ] must necessarily be understood, in accordance with the preceding and following context (Romans 6:11), of the ethical participation in the new everlasting life of Christ. The aorist. In baptism, the burial in the liquid grave climaxes in EMERGING from the water. Christ’s resurrection life is not one of inactive repose or passive communion with God, but one of holy service, ceaseless ministry, continual intercession ‘within the veil,’ government of the world, and perfecting of the Church. (6) Translate, For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace. Whosoever has died with Christ is now also of the belief that his life, i.e. the positive active side of his moral being and nature, shall be a fellowship of life with the exalted Christ; that is, shall be able to be nothing else than this. That is what ‘living with Him’ means while on earth. Being dead He was free from sin and the sway which the law gave to the sin He bore. 8. Nov 26, 2000. Romans 6:8 f. Carrying onward the discussion by the metabatic δέ; and thereby passing from the negative side of the having died with Christ as proved in personal consciousness (τοῦτο γινώσκοντες, Romans 6:6) in. Commentary on Romans 6:1-14 View Bible Text For many of us, Romans 6 is scripture we have turned to as we have developed a theology of baptism, debated the merits of immersion versus sprinkling based on the imagery of burial and resurrection, and to whom it should be applied. And hereby he teaches us that newness of life is to be pursued by Christians as long as they live; for since they ought to represent in themselves an image of Christ, both by crucifying the flesh and by a spiritual life, it is necessary that the former should be done once for all, and that the latter should be carried on continually: not that the flesh, as we have already said, dies in us in a moment, but that we ought not to retrograde in the work of crucifying it. The parallel.—Is one of death and life. also live with = live also with. 1 Corinthians 15:54-57). Such, therefore, is the subject of the Epistle for today (Sixth Sunday after Trinity). Romans 6:8 The text exhibits a parallel between Christ’s literal death and resurrection and our spiritual death and resurrection, and not only a parallel, but also the real connection between them. This book is written for those who hunger and thirst after righteousness. If the former, the ἀπεθάνομεν σὺν χριστῷ, be true, we cannot doubt the latter. Through His death and resurrection He has delivered us from ‘the house of bondage’, and from the slavery of sin, as we are accounted righteous and then share His resurrection life. It includes, therefore, all the consequences of redemption. If he lives, we shall live also. The Apostle now resumes his main thought. Не потому, что плоть в нас умирает в один миг, как было сказано выше, но потому, что не позволительно пятиться назад в ее умерщвлении. Romans 8:6, KJV: "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace." Romans 2:6-10. (a) To the believer. So His people, risen with Him, are alive unto God, with a life of holy service, in the cause of righteousness, are priests unto God, are subduing the world to Him as kings. Participation of the believer's sanctified life with the life of Christ rather than participation in future glory, which is not the point emphasized. To be alive with Christ is to be so minded that the atmosphere of heaven refreshes, enlivens, stimulates, invigorates us. Having been conjoined with Him in His death, we are, and also will be, conjoined with Him in His resurrection (Romans 6:5), both now (Romans 8:10; John 5:24; Galatians 2:20) and in eternity (Romans 8:11; John 5:28-29). Hence learn, That all those that are dead with Christ, have no reason to doubt but that they shall also live with him. vii., p. 179. Commentary on Romans 9:25-29 (Read Romans 9:25-29) The rejecting of the Jews, and the taking in the Gentiles, were foretold in the Old Testament. Others, in opposition to the context, hold that what is meant is the future participation of Christians in the bliss of the glorified Saviour (Flatt, Reiche, Maier, following Origen, Chrysostom, Theodoret, Grotius, and Heumann); and others still, at variance alike with the definiteness and unity of the sense, interpret it of the earthly moral and the eternal blessed life together (Sebastian Schmid, Böhme, Rosenmuller; and not rejected by de Wette). Observe here, 1. ‘We believe.’ — Upon this it is useful to remark, that though the Apostle reasons and deduces from principles, yet we are to be cautious not to consider his doctrine as needing any other support but his own assertion. But if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. Now if we be dead with Christ - According to what is stated in the preceding verses. Reference: Romans 6:8.—Clergyman's Magazine, vol. INTRODUCTION: GOD'S STANDARD . 1. CHAPTER 6. If we have fellowship with Christ in his death, we have reason to believe we shall have fellowship with him also in his resurrection and life: see Romans 6:5. Romans 8 Resources - Multiple Sermons and Commentaries For ( 1063 ) ( gar ) is a term of explanation and in this case explains why the mind of the flesh is at enmity with God. that our union with Christ is such that his death secures our deliverance from the penalty and power of sin, we believe we shall also live with him. The aorist. “But if we died along with Christ, we believe that we shall live along with him, ‘But if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him,’. Dogmatic belief rather than trust, though the latter is not excluded. Compare Romans 6:11. So is it with spirits and souls: an unrenewed spirit could not live in heaven, he would die; an angel could not live in hell. His people, therefore, must be conformed to him; dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God.' 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